A HUGE thank you to Jacqueline for spending time and careful consideration on this interview. I am so pleased she reached out to me a couple of years ago and continue to look forward to getting to know her better and working on some projects in advocacy and education with her.
I think you'll enjoy her story...she shares it from the perspective of a mom of Elementary age kids.
Can you give us a little background on you before kids and what your family looks like right now?
I grew up in Atlanta, went to college in Georgia and came back to Atlanta after college. I was not one of those girls who really knew what they wanted to be when they grew up. I knew I wanted to get married and have kids, because that is what women are supposed to do, right? That was more or less how I thought. Don’t get me wrong, I did want children, but it wasn’t something I genuinely longed for. I was really a late bloomer when it came to discovering who I was and what I wanted my life to look like. My children were actually what empowered me to come into my own as a woman. I have an 8 year old son and a 6 year old daughter. My husband is loving, generous, compassionate, supportive, funny and smart. I feel grateful every day that he is the father of my children.
You are a Survivor Mama...you recovered from Postpartum Depression. When did you know something was wrong? How did the PPD manifest; what were your symptoms?
I don’t think I really knew something was wrong until after I recovered. I always said that it first started when my son was 6 months old and I stopped breastfeeding. That is certainly when the symptoms of depression set in. I didn’t want to get out of bed, I felt worthless and incredibly irritable. However, things didn’t feel good the first 6 months either. My son was a colicky baby. I am someone who likes predictability and structure, so I did not function well with an unpredictable schedule and not much sleep (my husband makes fun of me because I really do need 10 hours of sleep a night). Not knowing when I would get a break each day made me feel very anxious. You are a Survivor Mama...you recovered from Postpartum Depression. When did you know something was wrong? How did the PPD manifest; what were your symptoms?
Breastfeeding was difficult at first and I felt trapped doing it. Thank goodness for a supportive lactation nurse who told me that it is not worth doing if I was miserable. She gave me permission to have a choice. I felt grateful for that. I don’t think a lot of mamas get that advice. I believe it is the “all or nothing” thinking that creates a lot of anxiety and depression and I certainly believed things had to be “all or nothing.”
I remember writing a letter to my husband telling him I was sorry for something (what I wasn’t exactly sure), but I knew something was wrong with me. I just assumed I was inadequate somehow because I couldn’t adjust to being a new mom. I was supposed to be so happy, but I felt far from it. I loved my son dearly, but it was difficult for me to adjust to the demands of motherhood, and I was terrified I was going to fail. I am not sure that feeling ever goes away, really. I have just learned not to take that feeling so literally and give myself permission to make mistakes. I make a lot of them.
When and how did you treat your PPD?
I didn’t get treated for my PPD with my son. Fortunately, it subsided on its own, but I was sure to be proactive when it came time for my daughter. The unfortunate experience with that was how some of the medical professionals I was working with didn’t want anything to do with medication. The plan was for my OB to give me an antidepressant in the hospital. For whatever reason, I didn’t get it. I waited a few weeks after we brought her home and called for a prescription. The OB nurse said because I was breastfeeding, I needed to call my pediatrician. The nurse at the pediatrician’s office said I needed to call poison control. Poison control read me a study from the American Academy of Pediatrics on breastfeeding and antidepressants. I was not a therapist at the time and had no clue what any of that information meant. They proceeded to tell me to call my pediatrician. No one wanted to help me.When and how did you treat your PPD?
When I finally got my daughter to her 6 week well check, I asked my pediatrician. He read the same study as poison control. With a blank stare, I asked, “What does that mean”? He said, “by the time it gets to the milk and to her, it is a miniscule amount. Just watch her and make sure there are no pattern changes.” I thought, “pattern changes?” She’s six weeks old!
I finally got the medication from my OB at my 6 week check up and sought therapy which helped me to have a healthier experience. There is a lot more research and knowledge now concerning medication and pregnancy/breastfeeding. I encourage all mamas to talk to your doctor and a mental health professional if there is any concern. If your Doctor isn’t supportive and won’t give you resources, don’t give up. You are not a bad mother and it is ok to get help.
How are you helping mothers today, using the experience you have had personally?
How are you helping mothers today, using the experience you have had personally?
Today I am a therapist who specializes in the treatment of postpartum mood reactions. After I recovered, and started graduate school, I became extremely passionate about working with mothers. Every mother has a voice and my goal is to empower her to use it.
As a mom of children who are past infancy, what do you say to new moms who feel like the baby stage is going to last forever?
As a mom of children who are past infancy, what do you say to new moms who feel like the baby stage is going to last forever?
I won’t say “enjoy it because it goes by so fast.” While that is true, it is not very validating or helpful in the moment. I never liked it when people would say that to me.
My advice would be to take it day by day. Stay in the moment and don’t judge yourself for having times or days where you just don’t enjoy this stage. It is o.k.! You can be a good mother and not enjoy every moment of being a mother. Infancy is hard. My most important advice is self care, self care and self care!!
What is your favorite parenting moment?
My favorite parenting moment is watching my children overcome fears. My son does not like to be the center of attention. He is what we called “a runner”. At his preschool sing along and as a ring bearer at age 4, he ran both times when it came to the moment to perform. At the end of his kindergarten year, they had a sing along that he complained and threatened to leave weeks leading up to the event. When the moment arrived, he stood up there singing and smiling. When it was over, he said he had fun. He has never had an issue since. What is your favorite parenting moment?
What is the funniest/most embarrassing thing that has happened to you since having kids?
We were at a nice restaurant in town and our daughter was maybe 13 months old. She had a very runny #2 that flowed out of her diaper, all over the high chair and onto the floor. We quietly cleaned up what we could and left (after paying of course).
What advice would you give to a woman who is expecting for the first time?
What advice would you give to a woman who is expecting for the first time?
Have a dialogue with your partner about roles and responsibilities, as well as keep the lines of communication open after the baby comes in case the roles need to be adjusted. Allow dads to be involved. They can be just as nurturing as moms and they are just as important. They can also feel just as inadequate as we do.
What would you say to a new mom, if you could only share one thing?
Being a parent is always hard, sometimes miserable, as well as joyful, spiritual and fulfilling. It can be all of those things at once. It does not have to be one or the other. Pay attention to both and don’t judge yourself for however you feel.
If someone is suffering from PPD, what do you think is the most important thing they can do to expedite their recovery?
If someone is suffering from PPD, what do you think is the most important thing they can do to expedite their recovery?
Educate yourself on postpartum mood reactions, know yourself and plan for support and self care. There is no shame in having postpartum depression even though I think society still says there is. All moms have the right to advocate for themselves. It also models self advocacy for their children.




























